You can try installing these applications in Compatibility mode to Windows XP. There are no updates available for them, but in case they don't work, then you'll have to install Windows XP through virtualization. Virtualbox is a good application that can be used to have a Windows XP virtual machine running inside Windows 8.1. It's the best way if you keen on having these installed. There are also other alternatives that can be downloaded for the Windows 8.1 operating system. Access the database of Software Informer to look for them.